Mono Red Burn
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Mono Red Burn
It's not only for Extended...
4 Keldon Megaliths
14 Mountain
4 Mutavault
2 Sulfur Elemental
4 Magus of the Scroll
4 Emberwilde Augur
4 Inner-Flame Acolyte
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Browbeat
4 Shard Volley
4 Incinerate
4 Rift Bolt
SB:
3 Pithing Needle
1 Sulfur Elemental
3 Magus of the Moon
4 Cryoclasm
4 Threaten
This beats Reveillark. Right?
4 Keldon Megaliths
14 Mountain
4 Mutavault
2 Sulfur Elemental
4 Magus of the Scroll
4 Emberwilde Augur
4 Inner-Flame Acolyte
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Browbeat
4 Shard Volley
4 Incinerate
4 Rift Bolt
SB:
3 Pithing Needle
1 Sulfur Elemental
3 Magus of the Moon
4 Cryoclasm
4 Threaten
This beats Reveillark. Right?
Guillaume- Posts : 51
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Re: Mono Red Burn
It looks good to me! One of us outta take it for a drive.
Solomon- Admin
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Re: Mono Red Burn
is anybody playing reviliark yet? Yes, flashing in sulfur elemental does beat the combo. But why augur? Mudbottom torchrunner seems better, since he essentially doesn't have to stick around the whole turn to do damage. I'm also unsure of threaten without a sac outlet of some sort.
SilkyJohnson- Posts : 314
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Re: Mono Red Burn
Well, I built this yesterday due to boredom, though I'm lacking the shards, scrolls, and 1 browbeat. I'm still not sure i'd run threaten though. I'm sure I'd rather have skred or work of siezing in the board for critters/enchantments etc. I also thought about putting a couple or a few crucibles in the board for that janky ass LD deck that pissed me off friday.
SilkyJohnson- Posts : 314
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Re: Mono Red Burn
where's Gargs? I would think he'd be incredible especially with Threaten. Also, if Blink.dec is a problem then Sudden Shock could make an appearance.
Solomon- Admin
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Re: Mono Red Burn
Solomon wrote:where's Gargs? I would think he'd be incredible especially with Threaten. Also, if Blink.dec is a problem then Sudden Shock could make an appearance.
perhaps, though i think sulfie b should be enough. Though I had pondered throwing some of those nice new foily crypts in the board for these goddamned blink/reveliark decks.
SilkyJohnson- Posts : 314
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Re: Mono Red Burn
Sulfie B! Yeah, they are pretty tasty. I don't think you need to worry about the Revelark decks though Crypt would also be cool for Reanimator if it gains popularity.
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Re: Mono Red Burn
I fished this last night and found it to be pretty efficient, though I'm not entirely sold on magus of the scroll yet. More often than not he's a 1 drop that does nothing but swing. I have seen that this deck can kill turn 4-5, which should give us an extremely good matchup vs. manaquin (though it isn't played much). T1 mogg followed by a t2 marauder and a turn 3 suspended bolt and augur = gg bitches (this happened about 30% of the games i solo'd last night). That being said, maybe -4 magus +4 sparkie b.
SilkyJohnson- Posts : 314
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Re: Mono Red Burn
Ol' Sparkles is only good if you have a clear path, otherwise it may be better to replace Magus with more in yo' face burn.
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Re: Mono Red Burn
Yeah, I think there are lots of decks in Type 2 that just have no lifegain or counterspells, and I think you can race just about any creature deck. Also, I think Magus is worth more damage than Sparky. For example, even if you just play him turn one, get 1-2 attacks in, activate him once or twice, then he dies...it's pretty easy for him to deal more than three, and Sparky won't always get in there, he's a pretty bad topdeck lategame. So I'd suggest Magus. Spark Elemental might be better than some other stuff though.
Re: Mono Red Burn
On a good note, I was extremely impressed with browbeat. I never drew it and thought 'why isn't this something else?' Casting one on turn 3-4 is always going to be huge, usually because they're going to be @ 15 life or less, alot of people say its a terrible draw spell, which it is. The fact is, you don't play browbeat as a draw spell as much as you do a 3cc beacon. I just wish char or an equivalant was still in print, a 4 damage spell would be nice.
SilkyJohnson- Posts : 314
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Re: Mono Red Burn
there's always psionic blast (lol?)
this deck went undefeated at worlds, i realize it looks really janky but it's not awful, it might also benefit from mutavault (who doesn't):
2 Snow-Covered Island
5 Snow-Covered Mountain
1 Gemstone Mine
1 Vivid Crag
2 Yavimaya Coast
4 Karplusan Forest
3 Faerie Conclave
4 Shivan Reef
1 Pendelhaven
4 Looter il-Kor
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Greater Gargadon
4 Threaten
1 Fatal Frenzy
4 Rift Bolt
4 Psionic Blast
4 Incinerate
SB: 1 Fatal Frenzy
SB: 3 Ancient Grudge
SB: 3 Manabarbs
SB: 2 Sower of Temptation
SB: 4 Sulfur Elemental
SB: 2 Jace Beleren
just something to think about...
this deck went undefeated at worlds, i realize it looks really janky but it's not awful, it might also benefit from mutavault (who doesn't):
2 Snow-Covered Island
5 Snow-Covered Mountain
1 Gemstone Mine
1 Vivid Crag
2 Yavimaya Coast
4 Karplusan Forest
3 Faerie Conclave
4 Shivan Reef
1 Pendelhaven
4 Looter il-Kor
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Greater Gargadon
4 Threaten
1 Fatal Frenzy
4 Rift Bolt
4 Psionic Blast
4 Incinerate
SB: 1 Fatal Frenzy
SB: 3 Ancient Grudge
SB: 3 Manabarbs
SB: 2 Sower of Temptation
SB: 4 Sulfur Elemental
SB: 2 Jace Beleren
just something to think about...
Re: Mono Red Burn
also, here's an old deck called Johnny Walker Red that kinda reminds me of TimCrites.dec in that it's pretty efficient except that it plays such big spells that it has to play a lot of lands, giving itself virtual card disadvantage. However, unlike TimCrites.dec, JWR's lands do something.
3 Coalition Relic
4 Mind Stone
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Mogg War Marshal
4 Siege-gang Commander
1 Furnace Of Rath
4 Beacon Of Destruction
4 Incinerate
3 Chandra Nalaar
4 Molten Disaster
12 Mountain
2 Fungal Reaches
4 Ghitu Encampment
3 Keldon Megaliths
3 Zoetic Cavern
1 Kher Keep
1 Pendelhaven
61 cards
Sideboard:
3 Pithing Needle
1 Furnace Of Rath
4 Sulfurous Blast
3 Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
4 Browbeat
3 Coalition Relic
4 Mind Stone
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Mogg War Marshal
4 Siege-gang Commander
1 Furnace Of Rath
4 Beacon Of Destruction
4 Incinerate
3 Chandra Nalaar
4 Molten Disaster
12 Mountain
2 Fungal Reaches
4 Ghitu Encampment
3 Keldon Megaliths
3 Zoetic Cavern
1 Kher Keep
1 Pendelhaven
61 cards
Sideboard:
3 Pithing Needle
1 Furnace Of Rath
4 Sulfurous Blast
3 Jaya Ballard, Task Mage
4 Browbeat
Re: Mono Red Burn
Hay guyz, ne1 got howling minez or lightning serpentz? 4real would appreciate plsthx
3 Howling Mine
4 Countryside Crusher
4 Flamekin Bladewhirl
3 Inner-Flame Acolyte
4 Keldon Marauders
2 Lightning Serpent
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Spark Elemental
4 Incinerate
4 Shard Volley
4 Rift Bolt
16 Mountain
4 Mutavault
Sideboard:
4 Dragon's Claw
3 Spitebellows (Threaten?)
4 Sulfurous Blast
4 Cryoclasm
Wild Ricochet?
I want Siege-Gang so bad because I think it's the best card in type 2, but I guess the low curve is better overall, idk. Sulfurous Blast main would be nice too.
3 Howling Mine
4 Countryside Crusher
4 Flamekin Bladewhirl
3 Inner-Flame Acolyte
4 Keldon Marauders
2 Lightning Serpent
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Spark Elemental
4 Incinerate
4 Shard Volley
4 Rift Bolt
16 Mountain
4 Mutavault
Sideboard:
4 Dragon's Claw
3 Spitebellows (Threaten?)
4 Sulfurous Blast
4 Cryoclasm
Wild Ricochet?
I want Siege-Gang so bad because I think it's the best card in type 2, but I guess the low curve is better overall, idk. Sulfurous Blast main would be nice too.
Re: Mono Red Burn
heres mine list.
it has been doing pretty well and i will probley end up taking this to city champs
4 mogg fanatic
4 keldon marauders
4 spark elemental
4 shock
4 shard valley
4 browbeat
3 lash out
4 incinerate
4 rift bolt
3 sulfurous blast
4 mutavault
3 ghitu encampment
16 mountain
it is 61 cards...having the 23 land helps plus its a mana land.
side board is so far
1 sulfurous blast
4 manabarbs
4 cryoclasm
4 sulfur elemental
2 ???
what do yall think?
it has been doing pretty well and i will probley end up taking this to city champs
4 mogg fanatic
4 keldon marauders
4 spark elemental
4 shock
4 shard valley
4 browbeat
3 lash out
4 incinerate
4 rift bolt
3 sulfurous blast
4 mutavault
3 ghitu encampment
16 mountain
it is 61 cards...having the 23 land helps plus its a mana land.
side board is so far
1 sulfurous blast
4 manabarbs
4 cryoclasm
4 sulfur elemental
2 ???
what do yall think?
DSqUaReD44- Posts : 28
Join date : 2008-02-10
Re: Mono Red Burn
There's a new 3 drop 4 damage burn spell... http://mtgsalvation.com/shadowmoor-spoiler.html#2398 Flame Javelin! No draw back bitches!
Char You! by Solomon
4 Countryside Crusher
2 Greater Gargadon
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Flame Javelin
4 Incinerate
3 Lash Out
4 Riftbolt
4 Shard Volley
4 Sulfurous Blast
2 Ghitu Encampment
2 Keldon Megaliths
16 Mountain
3 Mutavault
SB:
4 Fulminator Mage
4 Dragon's Claw
1 Greater Gargadon
3 Sulfur Elemental
3 Threaten
Char You! by Solomon
4 Countryside Crusher
2 Greater Gargadon
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Flame Javelin
4 Incinerate
3 Lash Out
4 Riftbolt
4 Shard Volley
4 Sulfurous Blast
2 Ghitu Encampment
2 Keldon Megaliths
16 Mountain
3 Mutavault
SB:
4 Fulminator Mage
4 Dragon's Claw
1 Greater Gargadon
3 Sulfur Elemental
3 Threaten
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Re: Mono Red Burn
Tthis is list i came up with
CREATURES / SPELLS
3 – magus of the scroll
4 –mogg fanatic
4 -- tattermunge maniac
4 – keldon marauders
4 –boggart bamraider
4 – ashenmoor gouger
4 – flame javelin
4 – shard volley
4 – incinerate
3 – rift bolts
LANDS
3 – mutavaults
4 – ghitu encampent
15 moutains
CREATURES / SPELLS
3 – magus of the scroll
4 –mogg fanatic
4 -- tattermunge maniac
4 – keldon marauders
4 –boggart bamraider
4 – ashenmoor gouger
4 – flame javelin
4 – shard volley
4 – incinerate
3 – rift bolts
LANDS
3 – mutavaults
4 – ghitu encampent
15 moutains
crazy8- Posts : 55
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Re: Mono Red Burn
i guess bamraiders=ram-gang. i dunno if sligh-style creature heavy decks are the way to go, you turn all your opponent's removal on and i'm not sure that's a good thing. it still may be powerful enough though with tattermuge maniac around. i think that guy will be awesome of course, but probably not any of the 3-drops, including crusher.
Re: Mono Red Burn
Oh,well ya i can make it a straight burn version too but if thats the case,you'd probably want browbeats or brutal visions from shadowmoor (and ya i ment Boggart Ram-Gang,i dont know why the hell i typed that)
crazy8- Posts : 55
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Re: Mono Red Burn
yeah brutal visions i think might be too expensive but i do like browbeat. also it will DEFINITELY play 4 everlasting torment sb. i think that makes creatures basically take twice as much damage because the creature gets -1/-1 counters then the damage isn't prevented by wither. seems almost as good as sulfuric vortex.
Re: Mono Red Burn
Dan Paskins' list for RDW 2k8, from Star City:
4 Tattermunge Maniac
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Fulminator Mage
3 Murderous Redcap
4 Incinerate
4 Tarfire
4 Rift Bolt
3 Lash Out
4 Karplusan Forest
1 Pendelhaven
3 Fire Canopy
2 Mutavault
2 Forest
10 Mountain
Seems good to me. I'm surprised at zero Treetops though.
4 Tattermunge Maniac
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Keldon Marauders
4 Fulminator Mage
3 Murderous Redcap
4 Incinerate
4 Tarfire
4 Rift Bolt
3 Lash Out
4 Karplusan Forest
1 Pendelhaven
3 Fire Canopy
2 Mutavault
2 Forest
10 Mountain
Seems good to me. I'm surprised at zero Treetops though.
Re: Mono Red Burn
Funny thing... without Goyf that list would be crap. I think the R/g Sligh or the straight to the dome deck I posted is the way to go. I have to get caught up on the spoiler so I'll probably make changes...
Solomon- Admin
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Re: Mono Red Burn
ya i dunno if murderous redcap is really that good but he was writing a preview article for it so i guess he had to include it. i see no reason why flame javelin couldn't be played though, especially with 4 fire canopies. like 80% of the lands produce red.
Re: Mono Red Burn
I dont know,i still like my list,except for maybe the magus of the scrolls,but their re-useable burn so thats why i put them in.
crazy8- Posts : 55
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