Decks to Beat: Next Level Blue

spike is always good. its always a card to pitch to chrome mox to get u off the read. then u have another one. i spike tons of people late game because of that.

.....or you could just have a card that you don't have to jedi mind trick someone into being useful.

I was thinking of something like this for OKC:

// Lands
1 [GP] Steam Vents
1 [DIS] Hallowed Fountain
4 [ON] Flooded Strand
4 [ON] Polluted Delta
1 [DIS] Breeding Pool
1 [TSP] Academy Ruins
1 [SOK] Miren, the Moaning Well
7 [MR] Island (4)
1 [MR] Tree of Tales

// Creatures
2 [RAV] Loxodon Hierarch
4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
3 [FD] Trinket Mage

// Spells
4 [CS] Counterbalance
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
2 [FD] Engineered Explosives
1 [SOK] Pithing Needle
4 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
1 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
3 [FD] Vedalken Shackles
4 [7E] Counterspell
4 [DIS] Spell Snare
3 [MR] Thirst for Knowledge

// Sideboard
SB: 4 [BOK] Threads of Disloyalty
SB: 3 [ON] Nova Cleric
SB: 3 [TSP] Ancient Grudge
SB: 2 [OD] Sphere of Law
SB: 3 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt

Of course, the Nova Clerics could be Ronom Unicorns instead, I don't know if the Clerics would actually be any good.

If anything, I think the Nova Cleric slots should be Krosan Grip or Indrik Stomphowler since those are good in the mirror. Grip is slightly better imo, tho if you play Snare then Stomphowler becomes better bc you can counter their Counterspell. Also, Stomphowler is good vs Ideal so thats something else to consider. But I still don't expect anyone but me to play that really.

I do kind of like the idea of Stomphowler. I guess I was getting greedy with the idea of going 3 for 1 against Ideal.

I mean Cleric is really good against them but basically, so what? Also don't forget they can go get Deed first.

Hrm. On StarCity Gerry Thompson just wrote a fairly convincing argument as to why Hierarch is so bad in the maindeck. From the forum post:

I dont think that Domain Zoo is a bad matchup. Threads is your best card against them and you only have access to two of them post board. It seems like your boys placed a lot of faith in Loxodon Hierarch instead, but thats wrong for several reasons. First, you dont have any basic Plains or Forests so even casting that Hierarch is probably going to cost you three life. Second, Zoo can easily kill it with Flames, Might, Vindicate, Terminate, etc and then youre in the same hole you were in before.

Hierarch is much better against against RDW because the majority of their deck is burn spells, but without basics, the card isnt very effective. Threads is going to take their best guy and give you a blocker, all a turn sooner. Theres just no reason to run Hierarchs main when you havent even maxed out on Threads yet.

So I'd probably switch the Hierarchs over to the board and bring 2 Threads back into the main.

so basically their build was already the best you could do? imagine that.

Yeah, amazing that (semi-)pro's can build better decks than me. Maybe it's those hundreds of games of testing.

yeah. that wasn't meant to be condescending, i just think that some people try to change lists that don't need to be changed at all. i think the trick is to read as much as you can about their explanations, think for yourself, and know when to trust a better player. the vast majority of lists can be improved on especially if the metagame changes or local meta is different. it's just a matter of knowing the builder, etc. and of course no harm done if you make changes and decide later that you're wrong. so yeah no offense i hope...

/rant

Semi pro?

GerryT wrote:Semi pro?

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