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Post  Redwithrage Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:44 pm

4 hideous laughter
4 pesecute
3 thoughtseize
4 tendrils of corruption
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4 kokusho
4 epochrasite
2 yukora, the prisoner
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4 mox
3 needle
2 phyrexian totem
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4 nights of souls betrayal
4 arena
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1 shezo
2 moning well
4 barren moor
15 swamp
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S/B
4 extirpate
3 tormods crypt
1 needle
4 damnation
3 havoc demon


ok so there is the 2.0 on this list ... help me out !

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Post  aceben3 Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:58 pm

I saw a Br list somewhere with Void, Damnation, Death Cloud, Guardian Idol...I think it top 8ed a PTQ. Can't find it now.

I don't think you need that much graveyard hate, and Relic of Progenitus might be better than either of those cards. Havoc Demon seems way too slow. I would love to race some hoes with Grinning Demon though.
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Post  Redwithrage Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:02 pm

lol havoc is WAY to slow fo show ... the crip is in there cuz i dont know all the format yet and i thought it would be something i wished i had ...idk ... the extirpate is more for combo than grave hate ... what do u think about cranial extraction for crypt ?
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Post  aceben3 Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:44 pm

There are basically three combo decks: Swans, Elves, and TEPS/Storm. Cheap/instant speed creature removal should do the job against Swans and Elves, and hand disruption plus a clock is what you want vs TEPS. Cranial Extraction isn't good. You can't hit Mind's Desire because they can easily kill you without it, and postboard they're probably going to have have multiple win conditions in their deck with either Grapeshot or Tendrils of Agony main and Brain Freeze SB. It's not hard for them to cast one of those and Remand it for enough copies to kill you. Persecute is almost always better than Extraction, and you don't want infinite 4-drops. Stuff like Tidehollow Sculler or Ethersworn Canonist would help if you don't mind splashing. Regardless, I view Extraction as a 4-mana Cabal Therapy without flashback and would much rather play Extirpate in conjunction with some cheap discard and aggressive creatures.
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Post  aceben3 Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:42 am

On a related note, this deck seems like a ton of your favorite cards:
Jonathan Loucks, Day 2, GP LA
4 Bloodstained Mire
3 Flooded Strand
2 Windswept Heath
2 Blood Crypt
2 Godless Shrine
1 Sacred Foundry
2 Orzhov Basilica
1 Rakdos Carnarium
3 Ghost Quarter
3 Plains
1 Swamp
1 Mistveil Plains
4 Martyr of Sands
2 Kami of False Hope
1 Figure of Destiny
1 Ghost-Lit Stalker
4 Ranger of Eos
1 Roiling Horror
4 Hide/Seek
4 Lightning Helix
4 Proclamation of Rebirth
4 Phyrexian Arena
4 Wrath of God
2 Ajani Vengeant

Sideboard:
3 Fracturing Gust
2 Rule of Law
2 Ethersworn Canonist
2 Firespout
2 Kami of False Hope
1 Plains
2 Gilded Light
1 Mind Shatter

I'm sure it kind of looks like a pile but I'd at least try it as is. The guy top 8ed a PTQ with it a couple of weeks ago so some things that look wrong might be right. With the way the metagame is shaping up, Gilded Light is probably even better than Stifle.
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Post  Redwithrage Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:07 pm

i have wood for half those cards but its not a Black deck lol ... trust me ben im lookin into a White weenie deck too
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